Bazhai Mingjing (BZMJ) Questions

October 10, 2009

SJ asked me these probing questions below on BZMJ the other day and I gave him my answers, may be those who have learned some Bazhai would find them interesting and would like to make some further comments.

SJ: I recently heard that one could not cure inauspicious Bazhai portents by using a reductive cycle. For example, Liu-Sha (Water) cannot be cured by adding Wu-Xing Wood.

HC: It is true that BZMJ did not mention this way of doing things, but some master like my Master Ren Zhi-Lin said it was a “secret transmission”! I guess they might have been influenced by Shen Shi Xuan Kong Wuxing Shengke to Jiehua (“cures”) where the weakening or the reductive cycle is preferred over a generating cycle to deal with a bad star. Theoretically to me it makes sense, because the wandering star always has it element associates with it as it “wanders”, and we are dealing one type of wandering star at a time.

SJ: I am told that according to BZMJ, in Chapter 91, Yan-Nian (Metal) is needed to counter Liu-Sha (Water). Apparently, a star Qi is necessary to counter another star Qi. Other cases would be Fu-Wei (Yin Wood) to counter Huo-Hai (Earth); Tian-Yi (Earth) to counter Jue-Ming (Metal); and Sheng-Qi (Wood) to counter Wu-Gui (Fire).

With the exception of Fu-Wei (Wood) countering Huo-Hai (Earth), all other relationships are in a generating cycle. Also, as Fu-Wei is Yin Wood and Huo-Hai is Yang Earth, this relationship is acceptable as opposite polarities do not fight each other.

HC: I think you mean in Chapter 81 and not Chapter 91 where it only talked about the Yan-Nian picture (Yan-Nian Tu), whereas in Chapter 81 which is called “Jiu-xing Ji-fu” or how to “Subdue the Nine Stars” and it said, “Sheng-Qi falls on Wu-Gui, Tian-Yi bullies Jue-Ming, Yan-Nian holds down Liu-sha and what Fu-Wei subdue is already arranged (that is the left over Jue-Ming)”.

But what one must remember is when this chapter talks about the four auspicious wondering stars subduing the four harmful wondering stars, one must ask how can they subdue each other when they are constantly wandering at different places at different times and there are two sets of them going at the same time (one set generated by the Zhai Gua and the other by the Ming Gua)? The subduing cannot be done in space, it can only be done with the stove, because the stove can “hold down the sha and welcome the sheng”, which is the same as saying that the stoves should sit on the four harmful directions of a person and face the four auspicious directions of the same person, and this is the unique character of the BZMJ. It is not the same as saying one should use a generating cycle of a good star to counter a bad star in space.

SJ: Also, for example, if a bedroom is in the Yan-Nian portent (Yang Metal), it is best to face the bed in the Yan-Nian direction (Metal), and not Sheng-Qi (Yang Wood), as Metal controls Wood and Sheng-Qi direction will not be activated!

HC: Again you are talking about two single wandering stars rather than two groups of matching wandering stars, the priority goes with the grouping of East Four and West Four first. You need to refer to Chapter 31 of BZMJ called “The Position of the Bed” to see the guideline clearly, where it said, “…Matching the Ming direction is the most auspicious, follow by matching the different rooms (location to suit the person), then follow by the sitting mountain and finally by it relationship (of the bed) to the door of the room…” Then we also has to take the wondering stars of the person into consideration as well and they have priority over the Zhai stars according to BZMJ.

SJ: There is also a star/palace method in Bazhai where one can look at the underlying Luo Shu Gua of a portent and compare it with the Star to determine if the portent will be auspicious/inauspicious to begin with. For example, in the case of a Li House (East Four) SE: Tian-Yi (Yang Earth) – Guest Star; Luo-Shu Element (4, Yin Wood) – Host; Host Controls Guest. Inauspicious; Therefore, SE palace has inauspicious Qi even though Ju Men Xing star (Tian-Yi) is present in that portent. Similarly, NE palace with Huo-Hai is not very negative as Luo-Shu (8) Earth has same element as guest star Lu Cun (Huo-Hai).

HC: I teach this in the more advance level, but it is not exactly used in the way you mentioned. There are three ways we can use the theory of palace/star sheng-ke:

1) Use to assess the relationship between the main door and side doors in a house.

2) Use to assess the influence of a larger object near the main door.

3) Use to assess the relationship between the location of the bed and the bedroom door.

The theory behind this is quite complex and that is one of the reason I don’t teach it at the beginners level, and when one look at this method closely one can see how BZMJ is beginning to merge with Yangzhai Sanyao (YZSY – The Three Requirements of a Yang Dwelling) and Feixing (Flying Stars) in the way Ji-Xiong (auspicious and harmfulness) is determined by Wuxing Shen-Ke (the generating and controlling cycle of the Five Elements) between two stars, except the Elements for the wondering stars in BZMJ and YZSY are correlated differently to the flying stars in Feixing.



3 Responses to “Bazhai Mingjing (BZMJ) Questions”

  1. Terence Chan Says:

    G’day Howard,

    I confess that I’m the one who misinformed SJ that it is Chapter 91. Looking back I should have said Chapter 84 (sorry, SJ). I’ve been attempting to, very slowly, translate BZMJ into English. I admit I had wondered why SJ asked which chapter contained the ‘cures’. In any case, the title of the chapter is similar to what you have cited.

    However, would you agree that there may be two ways to read the word ‘Fu’ in the Chapter’s last sentence: (1) the way you have i.e. “Fu’ implies ‘Fu Wei’; and (2) that ‘Fu’ is the second part of the word ‘Zhifu’ which translates as ‘subduing’, echoing the title of the Chapter. I’m more inclined to the latter. What do you reckon?

    By the way, I’ve been reading and admiring your articles and posts over the years!


  2. howardchoy Says:

    G’day Terry,

    Thanks for dropping by, I think we are still talking about Chapter 81 and not Chapter 84, 81 is the last chapter of the first half of the book.

    Yes, I agree with you, we can translate the word “Fu” in both ways, the end result is still the same idea: the four auspicious stars subduing the four harmful stars (四吉星制伏四凶星) when locating the stove.

    Elsewhere in the book, it was made clear that we are talking about the wondering stars of the Ming Gua of a person and not Zhai Gua of a house.

    Translating the BZMJ into English is badly needed, there is no decent translation at the moment, but to be honest, you need to have some peer reviews of your work because it is a very difficult task.

    I’ve made some “off the cuff” comments to SJ already, if you care to sent me a private email, I can forward a copy to you for your interest, but please don’t think I am being rude, I was only responding to SJ’s request.

    Best Wishes,

  3. Sanjay Dua Says:

    Hi Howard,

    Glad you folks were able to connect. I’d sent Terry your feedback w/o mentioning your name. Hopefully, I did not offend anyone in the process. Like many others, I am interested in discovering the truth and in understanding the real mechanics that make BaZhai work. BZMJ is no ordinary book. The need to unveil its art from behind a cloud of secrecy and superstition is paramount.

    Best Regards,

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